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Date: 2017-05-29 06:00 am (UTC)It just part of the battle, in the end. They wanted to take out a conduit. I wanted to protect Ron. It could have been worse, all things considered. Ron survived, the others did too, thankfully. So it's... fine.
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Date: 2017-05-29 06:17 am (UTC)[ The way he snarls it suggests that giving him an answer might not go especially well for Tsukikage's killer. And Rin had met a few gargoyles during the course of his interrogations. ]
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Date: 2017-05-29 06:30 am (UTC)Rin. Honestly, it's alright. [He'll reach out to put a hand on the man's shoulder. This is why he didn't tell anyone else in the house that he perished and made Ron promise not to tell.] Everyone was on edge for that event, and for good reason. Please do not go out and do anything rash. The last thing we need is to instigate another cycle of revenge.
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Date: 2017-05-29 03:45 pm (UTC)Like hell it is. I don't care how on edge anyone is. That doesn't give them the right to kill you for protecting your son!
[ He hates this place revenge cycles, hates how pointless they are in a world where nobody can truly die. But in this moment of red hot rage, it's hard not to give into that desire to hurt others as they have hurt his friend. All of his fury toward Tsukikage for keeping the fact that his children were conduits a secret from him is drowned out in his fury that someone would kill a parent defending their child. ]
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Date: 2017-05-29 04:58 pm (UTC)[Tsukikage is calm. He pulls his hand back and he looks at Rin, feeling a little guilty for diverting his anger for some reason. His hand habitually picks the scabs on his arm through the bandages, trying to focus himself.]
An eye for an eye makes the world blind. I've made my peace with it, Rin. There's no need to chase either of them down. If there was a need to make them hurt, I would have. It's alright.
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Date: 2017-05-29 05:24 pm (UTC)[ Rin grumbles it under his breath. He knows how Tsukikage sees himself. Tsukikage's dream revealed more than enough to ascertain that. ]
You need to get that bastard away from your kids before he fucks them up any worse.
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Date: 2017-05-30 02:54 pm (UTC)He has not bothered us since Mana put her announcement up, and I have set up other safeguarding measures for both of them. There's no need for other unnecessary things.
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Date: 2017-05-31 12:34 am (UTC)What sort of safeguarding measures? And what do you consider unnecessary?
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Date: 2017-05-31 01:54 pm (UTC)Murder. Torture. Dismemberment. Suffering of any kind. [Because that's exactly the sort of thing that leads to trouble. Don't try anything, Rin...]
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Date: 2017-06-01 02:32 am (UTC)What makes you think I was even considering any of those options? I'm after the fake gods, not their followers.
[ Now, whether he would like to see some of those things done to them... that's another story entirely. ]
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Date: 2017-06-02 07:01 am (UTC)I worry in general. Sometimes people have very misdirected anger. It's a catchall. [He sighs quietly.] If you find a way to strike at them, let me know. I'm sure there are many of us that feel the same way.
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Date: 2017-06-03 06:54 pm (UTC)I'm tired of just letting this shit happen over and over again. At least the followers have some protection.
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Date: 2017-06-04 03:53 pm (UTC)I can tell you for a fact a few more who fervently deny gods and want peace... Actually, a few days ago, I talked to Percy about this matter in particular. [Maybe four or five days now that he thinks about it.] He's on our side for one. Interestingly, he managed to get a lot of attention and got a lot of people to go to the GSA meeting.
Like-minded people will be drawn to things if there is something established. If we had something to draw people who feel as we do, that would give us a better scale of things. In terms of followers, it'll be trickier to figure things out, especially since it seems that followers don't even know each other.
... I am as well. It's why I want to do something about it so we don't have to continue to suffer.
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Date: 2017-06-04 11:21 pm (UTC)But what can we offer people that comes anywhere close to what Elias and the Fog Bitch can? It doesn't matter if most of it is lies, they give people some sense of control over their lives. How can we offer that?
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Date: 2017-06-07 03:13 pm (UTC)The Fog offers power and security, and people join because they feel freedom through the expression of monster forms. Elias' main gimmick is to offer friendship and a way to fight the Fog, and people join to make themselves feel not so helpless. In all honesty, the best we can offer is collaborative support, because while we cannot provide the power that the Fog provides, we certainly could protect those who need it a lot better. And Elias'... while his last few attempts have been... of questionable success, his followers don't really fight the Fog God like he promises. They just help Elias get power.
Training, for one. Open knowledge sources, perhaps a subset of the network to help people stay informed. Ways to monitor feeding and minimise it. We don't even have to lie, Rin. We just have to attack the enemy's weakest points.
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Date: 2017-06-10 11:18 pm (UTC)[ His tone grows quieter, softer as he discusses his old mentor. He has no idea how he'll be able to live up to Hijikata's role, but he has to try. There's nobody else anymore and this meant so much to Hijikata. ]
I think people would find value in a strong guarantee of protection and anything that helps them regain control of their lives so they don't feel jerked around.
[ That's what Rin yearns for anyway. ]
I don't plan to lie to anybody. I want to offer something better those bastards.
You think training will really protect people against the high leveled followers?
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Date: 2017-06-12 04:18 am (UTC)[He understands the reverence of this person and Tsukikage would like to help.]
We have to tell them we cannot guarantee it, but we can definitely give them a little more control. At least so they can go to bed and know they won't be stolen out of it.
[Tsukikage gives a nod.] Against higher level followers? Absolutely. We may not be able to give them powers, but we can teach them how to use their bodies and more importantly their minds. [As much as embracing the Fog God's gift hurts him, Tsukikage knows it would be foolish to not use everything at their disposal.] I know what to prepare for. I can even arm them, if we want to go that far. I still make a number of weapons in the old Japanese style after all. My swordsmithing has improved of late. [Using a hammer drowns out the voices in his head.]
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Date: 2017-06-14 03:41 am (UTC)[ Maybe some sort of support group that can respond quickly should someone lose themselves to the Fog or some other madness. Provided, of course, the madness isn't sweeping the entire peninsula. But then, even followers aren't safe. ]
Ah, I don't know if we need to arm anyone just yet. But giving them a better understanding of self defense might help. Too many people are getting swept up in the vengeance cycle, as you said.
What exactly do you mean by teaching them how to use their minds? Like strategy?
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Date: 2017-06-16 04:05 am (UTC)I see... Well, if the time comes for us to face the gods in battle, I'll be ready anyway. [It's a bit of a shame no one is going to use those shiny weapons at home, but Tsukikage isn't too disappointed. Maybe it's for the best.]
Exactly like strategy. Many people resort to instincts when fighting and while it is useful in a pinch, it's not the best way to defend yourself. To be effective in a fight, I find one must focus on their opponents' weakest points while utilising their own strengths. [Fighting is a discipline after all.] For example, striking with a sword rather than flailing wildly with it is usually more affective. Combat is one of the few things I'm useful at, so I'll be able to help there.
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Date: 2017-06-17 06:05 pm (UTC)Well, I'd definitely be interested in hearing what you can do about the control thing.
[ Now that he knows from the conduit event that both he and Haruka are as susceptible to the madness as anyone else. ]
And you know how to apply that strategy to each of the different monster types?
[ Rin has made it a point to keep himself abreast of all monster feeding and combat habits for both helping the younger monsters and defending himself against those in the grips of madness. His goal is to ensure Haruka never has to deal with his death every again. ]
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Date: 2017-06-19 03:19 am (UTC)It's the same way of managing the fog form, really. Don't starve yourself and learn how to manipulate your instincts. It takes some practice, but it can be done provided you aren't hungry.
[He's given tips to a few people how to curb themselves while in Fog form and just general hunger. Not a guarantee but it does help.]
Yes. I've been learning how each monster type attacks and defends. Of course it depends on the individual and their style as well as their different monster mutations, but if I see them I'll be able to figure something out. Ninja pride themselves in quickly adapting to situations and assisting our comrades by doing such.
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Date: 2017-06-20 01:10 am (UTC)[ It had certainly seemed that way for Rin when he was under the influence of the conduit. ]
How do you manipulate something like that?
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Date: 2017-06-20 02:51 am (UTC)[The conduit zones were a special case though. Even Tsukikage hadn't been able to resist that. And it's only a chance. Not everyone could control it. Most could... but...]
It's about directing your thoughts. Mindfulness. When instincts from the fog kick in, you need to be able to recognise and grab the thought. You recognise that it is an instinct and what you want to do, and channel it into something else. I use my hunger in that form for fighting. That aggression, that anger, that thirst to survive and just stuff myself senseless are all horrifying... but I do my best to use it to fight other monsters that have gone crazy in their fog form. Being able to protect people keeps me clear-headed. The ways to cope will vary from person to person.
The best counter of monster instincts is to be human. Compromise with those instincts. Rationalise thoughts. It helps.
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Date: 2017-06-25 10:21 pm (UTC)And you think you can teach this thought-redirection to others?
[ The concept doesn't seem too far-fetched. Just a method of refocusing, strengthening one's mental defenses. ]
What do you mean be human?
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Date: 2017-06-29 05:18 am (UTC)[Meditation and thought exercises are very powerful when applied properly. Admittedly, Tsukikage's been a little slack in them with his lack of free time, but he's coming back to them.]
The proper saying is 'It is better to be a good duelist than the best monster'. I'm applying it to our situation here. A monster can only use the skills and powers that it has been given, but a duelist, a person, utilises all the things they have, rather than their raw ability. They use their minds, their souls, they think creatively. They work in teams, they strategise and use order. Does that make a little more sense?
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